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Canon Revisions: Aldonova

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So, he became the court mage of Marmo, which I assumed he would. I'll probably drop the part about him becoming a teacher at the academy because he's not really teacher material.

Is there any information on his past?
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RE: Canon Revisions: Aldonova

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He was from a nobel family of the Wind tribe. As a boy he was tough and strong, but in a wrestling match with another older kid, young Aldonova accidently broke his neck (I'm not 100% certain it's a broken neck) he was too strong... Aldonova couldn't get rid of this memory, he was strong yet kind and gentle and didn't want to harm anyone. Feeling dissapointed in his son, Aldonova's father sent him to learn magic, and luckily he was also talented in that aspect (he's not a good mage, but in Lodoss most people don't have the potential to learn even the most basic of magic, even if they tried hard all their life).

In the New Record of Lodoss War Aldonova fought a Farlaris High Priest with bare hands... the priest "cursed" himself, he was immune to all weapons but became much more vulnerable in bare hand fighting. Although the high priest was already weaked in bare hand fighting Spark and Garrack were both no match for him... in the end the part won only because Aldonova joined (yes, he is actually stronger than Garrack...)

By the way, in the manga I remembered that it was just an ordinary soldier guarding the treasure in Blade when the dark elves took the relic, but in the novel the person guarding the treasure was actually Slayn's other apprentice.

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Alright! Thanks. I've updated his page with the new information.

We're going to have to completely disregard the new story, but what year does it take place in?
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RE: Canon Revisions: Aldonova

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I'm sorry I can't recall precisely, and the new novels aren't in electronic copies so I can't check right away (hard copy is in HK and I'm in Aust). But I would guess it's around 1 to 3 years after the fall of Marmo? Because the mecenary captain of Flaim became the 1st duke of Marmo, THEN it was spark. I think the whole story revolves around the first or first two years Spark became the duke.

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Canon Revisions: Ashram

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I do have a bit of information from the Black Knight translations I have. I was in the process of rewriting, but I haven't had a chance to finish.

Ashram's History wrote:Ashram was born into a noble household in Alania. He was the heir of a noble family that extended from the royal Kadamos family five generations back. His father was a captain of the Alanian knights with a bright future ahead of him. In time, he could could have been promoted to deputy commander, and one day to commander-in-chief of the entire knighthood. Ashram himself may have become ensquired to his father one day, and eventually become a knight as well.

However, in Ashram's eighth year, his life was torn apart. His father learned of colleague's dishonesty and injustice, he reported it. However, the other man was a favored vassal of the royal family. The royal family destroyed the prosecution's evidence, threatened the witnesses, and produced unfavorable testimony against Ashram's father. When the trial was over his father had been made out to be the guilty party, and in disgrace, he was convicted. He was sentenced to exile and transported to the dark island of Marmo. The burden of guilt, and the punishment, was extended to Ashram and his mother.

Ashram and his parents were shipped off to Marmo, and en route, Ashram met a boy about his age named Owen. A thief, Owen had been apprenticed to his stepfather who was a master thief. In helping his stepfather escape, Owen allowed himself to be caught by a knight. Unfortunately, it turned out that his stepfather had been the one that reported Owen as a thief. As punishment, Owen was sent to Marmo as well, while his stepfather got off. This boy became Ashram's closest friend.

After arriving on Marmo, Ashram's mother fell ill and died. His father was killed as well, kidnapped by dark elves to be fed to an ogre. Even such a skilled swordsman and noble soul fell to the dark island. After the death of his father, Ashram made a vow in order to survive; he would become wicked enough to swallow the whole island. Ashram and Owen together started a gang of other lost children in the city.


That's all I've done.

You've mentioned that Ashram and Pirotess didn't meet until after Fire Dragon Mountain, so I'll have to change that. If there is any more information you can think to add, let me know.

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RE: Canon Revisions: Ashram

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Ashram's mother didn't die because of illness, she was used to luxurious lifestyles so when she came to Marmo she had an affair with someone rich and powerful to get that lifestyle back. 8 years after Ashram arrived at Marmo (that makes him 16) he finally had a chance to kill his own mother and that man (for betraying his father).

I think you already have information about Ashram trading an oath with Barbas?

In the enchanted item thread I wrote about Ashram's armour being enchanged and has special effects. I also wrote somewhere else about Ashram being a very harsh but fair leader.

Also throughout the series it was constantly brought up that Ashram feel he could never surpass Beld (that's probably one of his most distinguished characteristics, any famous quote related to that??), but of course his followers would disagree on that.

I'll definately try to think up of more later~

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Canon Revisions: Beld

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In the novels, Beld didn't invade Lodoss because he was affected by the Soul Crusher. He wasn't evil at heart (probably chaotic neutral), he only wanted to take over all of Lodoss to fulfill Flaus dream (to unite Lodoss and end the war that has lasted forever). That's probably why it's called the War of Heroes, Wort said that it was a battle between two heroes, both with the good intention to bring peace to Lodoss, but had to fight because their methods conflicted.

Beld was also the mecanary captain of Skard and teacher of the prince of Skard. If I remembered correctly that's where he met Wort (not 100% sure) who was the court mage of Skard and also the teacher of the prince of Skard.

Also, Soul Crusher has the special ability of making the wielder immortal, that's why Beld could remain young and beat Fahn who aged a lot (but in the Legend novels, Beld seem to be more powerful than Fahn when they were both young anyway).

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Is Beld from Skard then?
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RE: Canon Revisions: Beld

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No, Beld is from the dark forest of Marmo, barbaric tribe. He and Wort were only hired by Skard's King Bruuk. The only reason why these two famous people were willing to go to the little city state was because they were both attracted by Skard prince's potential (i.e. mecenary captain was just a side-job for Beld).

Later when Wort and Mycen wanted to make Skard's prince the ruler of the entire Lodoss (build an empire and conqure all the other countries after defeating the demon king), Beld agreed to join and fight under the prince, but of course that never happened.
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oh wait...I already knew that. XD
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Canon Revisions: Cecil

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Cecil came from a nobel family in Alania, but because he was the 5th son, his father gave him way to a friend (who was a mage) to adopt when he was very young. His adopted father told Cecil that his golden hair was inherrited from his mother, but because he was too young to remember what his birth parents looked like he couldn't confirm whether it was true. [The Dragon of Fire Mountain I - chapter 1-2]

I don't remember how Cecil met Slayn, in fact I don't remember if it was ever mentioned, I let you know if I could find/remember anything.

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Another thing is that it was mentioned a couple of times that Cecil had really good physcial abilities and Slayn thought that he might have more potential as a fighter than as a mage. Parn did teach him some self defense fighting skills too.

Talking about mages who can fight, Alania is proud of two of its forces, one is their magical-knights called the Silver Heel Troop, the other is its guerilla troops which is suitable to fight in Alania where there are planty of forests to hide.

By the way, the page on Wort is empty at the moment, do you need information on his past (e.g. as a child) or do you have it but just haven't updated the page yet?

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berserk_penguin wrote:By the way, the page on Wort is empty at the moment, do you need information on his past (e.g. as a child) or do you have it but just haven't updated the page yet?


Both, actually.
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Canon Revisions: Deedlit

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Her history isn't posted yet, and I think I know most of what I need. Her parents were introduced in the Deedlit's Tale manga, but their names weren't mentioned. Were their names in the novel?

This is what I've been trying to work on for awhile. I think I got stuck on writing the right balance of details and a summary of her interaction in Demon of Flame.

Deedlit's history wrote:Deedlit is the youngest of the high elves, and the only child born in a thousand years—Estas being the last child born before her. Her mother and father were both ancient by human terms when she was born. As the youngest of her people, the high elven clan pinned it's hopes on her. Though Estas was already over a thousand years old himself when she was born, he and Deedlit were expected to one day marry.

As she reached adulthood, Estas became Deedlit's good friend and caretaker. When she went off exploring the forest, he was often on her heels. He taught her much of shamanism and swordsmanship. Despite the fact that she was a grown woman, Deedlit was still quite immature and playful, much to Estas's frustration. She grew to be rather curious of the world outside the forest, but she had been raised to fear and hate humans for their destructive nature.

One day, Deedlit and Estas saw a ghostly image of a human from the Forest of Lost Souls—the realm created by Ento to hold trespassing humans. It seemed that the man was trying to break free, so Estas went to speak to the elder about it.

Meanwhile, Deedlit went exploring and traveled to the edge of the forest, as far as she dared to go. Hearing dogs barking, she went to investigate and found a human hunter hunting rabbits on the outskirts of the forest. She was upset to see him with dead rabbits, but he quickly explained that humans needed to eat meat to survive, and that he never took more than he needed. He described himself as a part of the forest, much like a fox or other predator, and that he respected nature. Deedlit was convinced, and they spoke further. His name was Jord, and he explained that he knew how to avoid the traps of the Forest of No Return. However, his father hadn't been so lucky. Fifteen years ago, his mother fell ill and his father went hunting to earn some money for medicine. Jord assumed that his father, in haste, ignored the warning and got trapped in the forest.

After speaking to Jord, Deedlit gave him a warning and sent him on his way, then returned home. He had seemed so familiar, and she realized that he looked like the man she and Estas saw earlier! It seemed likely that he was Jord's father. After learning that Estas had been sent to kill the man, Deedlit followed him into the Forest of Lost Souls. She found him just as he was about to deliver the deathblow on Jord's father and stopped him. She told them both about meeting Jord, and his father was astonished that it had been so long since he became lost. He said that he decided to hunt a legendary beast in the forest so he could collect a reward and buy medicine for his wife. He believed that because he hunted out of greed, the forest had punished him. Estas agreed to let him go. He was freed from the curse and sent home to his family.

It was shortly afterwards that the elder announced that she sensed a great evil in the world and that she wanted someone to investigate. Deedlit eagerly volunteered, but most elves were against it. Estas was expected to be the one to leave, but surprisingly, he actually supported Deedlit. It was agreed that Deedlit would go, and she was provided with armor and a sword. It wasn't until Estas said farewell that she knew why he had supported her.

“I was once like you are now. I volunteered to go to the outside world. That was back before you were born. Back when I thought there was hope for the outside world. And hope for humans. My hopes soon turned to despair. I saw friends killing each other, and the man who killed the most was praised as a hero. I couldn't believe it. I didn't want to believe it...Maybe I sided with you so I could punish you. No matter how hard I try, you never seem to understand. You're going to have to see the ugly truth for yourself. Then maybe you'll get a taste of despair.”


Despite this, Deedlit was not deterred. She was just as determined as ever to make her own opinion about humans. Even with Estas's lecture, she set out into the world, full of hope.

It wasn't soon after that Deedlit met Parn. While traveling in Alania, Deedlit observed an army of goblins heading toward a human village in broad daylight. She first tracked down their den, to find it empty save for two human men. After telling them the goblins were going to the village, she let the humans deal with the problem.

Several days later, she met them again. Parn, she learned the young man was named, was a headstrong youth who aspired to be a knight, but lacked in the skills. Etoh, his childhood friend, was a Falis priest. Slayn, a sorcerer from Zaxon, and Ghim, a dwarf, had joined them. They too had been sent on a mission to discover the root of the evil looming over Lodoss. After a false imprisonment, and a battle with the Marmo army, they were joined by a thief, Woodchuck.

Their journey took them through the Forest of No Return—where Woodchuck, Ghim, and Parn were almost lost—and then to the rescue of princess Fianna of Valis. With Fianna, they traveled to Roid where they were honored for their valor and told of the war with the Marmo Empire.

They also learned about the witch, Karla, as she had been the kidnapper of Fianna. Ghim recognized her as Leylia, a Marfa priestess he had been close to and who disappeared seven years earlier. They were sent to see the sage Wort for more information on Karla, and learned that she was an ancient Kastuulian sorceress who bound her soul to a circlet so she could live on by possessing the bodies of others. Her purpose for this was so that she could maintain the balance of powers in Lodoss so it wouldn't be destroyed in the same way Kastuul had. It seemed that Leylia had been taken by her.

Through the trip, Deedlit found herself increasingly intrigued, and eventually attracted to Parn, but the boy hardly noticed her interest at first. These people were nothing like the humans Estas spoke about. Parn was called a hero for rescuing Fianna, but he slaughtered no one for the title. Her companions were all good people, and wouldn't kill wantonly. The Marmo, however, had cut a swath of destruction across southeastern Lodoss. Not all humans were like what Estas told her, which filled her heart with hope, but there were many that were, and that made her feel despair. She wasn't disheartened, however, and she fought alongside Parn to protect Lodoss.

She and Parn fought alongside the Valisians in the final battle of the War of Heroes, and saw both Fahn and Beld slain. Both kings lost, leaving the Marmo and Valis forces at a stalemate. For the next fifteen years, Kanon and the surrounding region would be occupied by the Marmo, but the Marmo would be able to gain little more ground than what they held.

After seeing the end of the War of Heroes, Parn and Deedlit rejoined their companions to complete another mission. Karla, the Grey Witch, had instigated the war, and they now knew that she possessed the body of the Marfa priestess Leylia. The six new heroes faced off against the ancient sorceress to save both Lodoss, and Leylia. Ghim fell to the witch's spell, but it was his axe that removed the cursed circlet from Leylia's head, freeing the priestess. However, Karla was not defeated. Instead, she took possession of Woodchuck and escaped.

Their company parted ways after paying their final respects to Ghim. Slayn took Leylia back to her mother, and soon married the priestess. Etoh went to princess Fianna's side and eventually married her as well, leading to him becoming king of Valis. However, Parn was determined to find Woodchuck, and Deedlit remained at his side. They traveled Lodoss for the next few years, trying to find rumors of a black haired sorcerer. Alania and Moss fell into civil war, and presumably, it was Karla pulling the strings behind them.

Two years later, Parn and Deedlit's journey brought them to Flaim, which was on the verge of civil war as well. The two clans of Fire and Wind were clashing, and it was rumored that the Fire clan was led by a black haired sorcerer. Pursuing this rumor, they went to see Kashue. Unfortunately, their hopes of finding Woodchuck were dashed, as it seemed the sorcerer was actually a shaman. However, because of this, Kashue asked Deedlit for her help as a shaman. The Fire clan shaman had control of Efreet, and with the fire king, Flaim was at the mercy of the tribe. Parn and Deedlit agreed to help, and halt their search for Karla.

Kashue requested Deedlit to summon Salamander, which she was not pleased to try. Salamander is considered a destructive and evil spirit by high elves, and rarely summoned. Deedlit was ashamed to have to attempt it, but she did. However, her simple attempt to summon Salamander brought Efreet's attention to her. The fire demon erupted from the brazier she had summoned from. Deedlit was thrown aside and knocked unconscious. She may have been burned to a crisp, but with the help of an enchanted sword provided by Kashue, Parn rushed in to save her. Efreet retreated, with a promise to meet Parn again.

As Deedlit recovered, Parn and Kashue prepared to go to battle against the Fire clan.
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RE: Canon Revisions: Ashram

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Did his father die first and did the affair start while he was still alive?

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